Unfiltered Friends

Escaping a CULT w/ Chloe Bluffcakes

• Chris Thompson • Episode 29

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[Supdaily]:

talk about that you can think off off the top of your head.

[Chloe Sexton]:

cannot.

[Supdaily]:

Okay, just know that at any point if I ask a question, you're like, that's a no for me. Just just

[Chloe Sexton]:

I've never

[Supdaily]:

tell me.

[Chloe Sexton]:

fucked up in my life ever, so, well, I'm good.

[Supdaily]:

Well, just I'm saying you control this. You control what goes out there. So just I'll make a note of it. I guess I'm being respectful of you or something like that.

[Chloe Sexton]:

No.

[Supdaily]:

It's gross. I know I'm working on being worse.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Listen, I respect myself none, therefore I walk around free to fuck up as much as I want.

[Supdaily]:

There you go.

[Chloe Sexton]:

There we go.

[Supdaily]:

Okay, I'm going to do a quick intro. Then I'm going to bring you in. How do I, how do you prefer to be referred to just Chloe or

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh, fine.

[Supdaily]:

Chloe, Chloe Bluff, Bluff Cakes, Chloe

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah,

[Supdaily]:

Bluff

[Chloe Sexton]:

we're

[Supdaily]:

Cakes.

[Chloe Sexton]:

based in the bluff city before that becomes an issue. A lot of people say buff, but that's what.

[Supdaily]:

I've always said bluff. I've always said I've known about you for a while, for a while. And then I was talking to people in my Patreon community and they were they were suggesting people and you were one of the first people. And I was like, oh, I know who that is. So I appreciate

[Chloe Sexton]:

Nice.

[Supdaily]:

you giving the time. How much time do I have with you, by the way?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm open.

[Supdaily]:

Okay, yeah, these go about an hour. So okay. Hello, unfiltered friends. Today we have on Chloe of Chloe's bluff cakes became recently obsessed with the giant cookies that she makes delicious except for the one that I wanted is of course sold out, which is all her fault. And she is a horrible human being, as she's probably told many times on the internet her story. We're gonna we're gonna I I was struggling to find one line to take this story like one

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh.

[Supdaily]:

direction because the story is so complicated. But for now, let's say hello and tell people a little bit about your business.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, so I think I'm most widely known probably for the baking and the cookies. My business started back in 2020. I kind of started out by sharing with people my regular baking. We hadn't even touched into the giant cookies yet or shipping or anything like that. And then when I realized the audience that wanted a little taste of what I was doing, I tried to figure out something that was sustainable and shippable and had a shelf life and. The giant cookies came into play and they have been my entire existence for the last what three years now.

[Supdaily]:

But so you have like a whole bunch of other types of baked good, but the the cookies

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah.

[Supdaily]:

are what keeps you afloat.

[Chloe Sexton]:

The cookies are what keeps me afloat and the cookies are what people across the United States and now Canada can enjoy. Cause I'm sorry, I give it to the people that can ship a cake. I have not figured that out yet. We're at amateur level, okay?

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. Have you ever heard of Portillo's?

[Chloe Sexton]:

No.

[Supdaily]:

It's a Chicago style hot dog chain, right? I grew up in Illinois and the the cake that they the chocolate cake they have there, people have it as their wedding cake. People are so obsessed with it. And I've asked my mom to ship it so many times and the people Portillo's are like, we just can't do it.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho.

[Supdaily]:

So I mean, they have a they have a chocolate malt and they. blend in an entire slice of chocolate cake into it.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Diabetes.

[Supdaily]:

Yes, well, that's

[Chloe Sexton]:

Let

[Supdaily]:

the mid,

[Chloe Sexton]:

us diabetes.

[Supdaily]:

that's Midwest, you know, that's kind of how it goes. So for you, I mean, obviously, like you had your business going, you were doing the, all the stuff previous to your story, but I feel like your story is what really launched you into the consciousness of a lot of people. And I think... I think an aspect that I think that's beautiful is I think we focus so much on how awful the world can be sometimes, but you had so many people hear your story and show up for you. So can you, it's really complicated because there's so many layers to it, but break down a little bit of like, of what happened and what the reaction of other people was to step up for you.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I wouldn't even say that the beginning of people showing, you know, just a level of human empathy, a lot of people weren't used to seeing was with my mom and the story surrounding her brain cancer. My initial launch on social media and just really getting to a place I never expected to be was when I was making. So I actually, I was a marketing director for a nonprofit. And it's something I was really, really passionate about. And... I told my employer I was pregnant when I found out and three days later they fired me and for absolutely made up causes and it was entirely illegal. And it's funny because so many people will say to you, they can't do that, that's illegal. It's crazy. But they can. It is illegal, but

[Supdaily]:

Wait,

[Chloe Sexton]:

they still do it.

[Supdaily]:

so do you have like say someone's listening to this and they're pregnant and they're worried about losing their job and like that's a possibility. I've seen it happen multiple times. I mean did you take any course of action after that happened?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I did. I ended up letting it go because it is incredibly time consuming. You have to understand that. But the EEOC, you know, it's there to protect women or people who are pregnant from these situations. And it's going to take a lot of your time. We're talking over a year of showing receipts and taking meetings and taking phone calls and giving them screenshots that happened a year ago. And all the while, you know, if you're trying to figure out a dying parent and you're trying to start a business, it's gonna become kind of like a second job. And eventually I just, I had to let it go. But...

[Supdaily]:

It seems like a lot of people just understand that most people don't have the pockets of the time to see that through so they're like well I'm gonna do it anyway and roll the dice I guess?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, yeah. And it's also it's not incredibly easy. I will say that you better you better have a really big grudge and you better really really want it. Because it can affect more than just you. It is it is more than just you know the paycheck. It is also making an example of the people who think that they can treat you as disposable because you're pregnant. And I understand that and I wish for simply that reason because it got to a point where I was just kind of like listen I was struggling at one point I am not anymore. I don't know that I really need to pursue this. They are still at heart a non-profit and Despite what these people directly did to me, I don't want to take them down Like I don't want them to reflect on the entirety of what they're doing on a national scale So I I didn't want to do it anymore. I just I lost the heart to do it. I didn't have any fight in me anymore But you better be ready to put a lot into it

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, and you hear you hear nonprofit and you're like, well, if some if someone's doing a nonprofit, you know, they have good intention They would never do something

[Chloe Sexton]:

Ah!

[Supdaily]:

like that. But like I don't really know many nonprofits that are actually like they're they're Yeah, i'm not trying to disparage but like, you know humans

[Chloe Sexton]:

No,

[Supdaily]:

humans

[Chloe Sexton]:

not everyone

[Supdaily]:

will

[Chloe Sexton]:

gets

[Supdaily]:

be humans

[Chloe Sexton]:

into non-profit, especially on the top tiers, because I was working underneath their CEO and their CEO, or add some letters up to C. I was working directly under them, those were my direct managers. And those people are making a lot of money, and they have really fantastic benefits. Not necessarily everyone on the bottom,

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

but there's more of an incentive for them to be in it for the wrong reasons.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

So, yeah.

[Supdaily]:

so you were, but before all that you were working in TV?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yes, so

[Supdaily]:

Okay.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I was, I was pretty fast trajectory between like the ages of 17 to 24. I, um, I went to college three years in, my mom got sick for the second time with brain cancer. Um, I started college actually when I was 17 and then fast forward, um, I didn't finish my degree in broadcast journalism. So I just kind of worked my way up from, uh, basically a producer's assistant. So you're just. dropping mics down the back of people's shirts and moving the jib cameras around and doing all

[Supdaily]:

I

[Chloe Sexton]:

the

[Supdaily]:

was

[Chloe Sexton]:

schlep

[Supdaily]:

a PA.

[Chloe Sexton]:

work.

[Supdaily]:

I was

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh

[Supdaily]:

a PA,

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah, that's

[Supdaily]:

so I get it.

[Chloe Sexton]:

fun times. And it's

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

like

[Supdaily]:

fun.

[Chloe Sexton]:

it's nothing but guys too.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

So

[Supdaily]:

I didn't enjoy that either, and I am a guy.

[Chloe Sexton]:

no, it's because it's kind of the worst and the worst in TV. People are real mean. You better have a thick ass skin.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So then I started working, you know, extra shifts and just trying to like teleprompting systems and how they were lining up all of their shows. And I learned it off to the point that I put myself out there and I was just like, hey, you guys are really light on the weekends. I'd be happy to take those like midnight to 8 a.m. shifts and produce for you guys. And if you think you like it, maybe you could hire me as a producer with no degree. And they did. So,

[Supdaily]:

Oh wow.

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah. So, but, you know, it got more and more toxic. And I really had to let go of the idea that I wanted to be in TV. You know, when I was a kid, I thought that baking was a fun little thing I'd done since I was like 12. But that's not a real career. You know, my family's very, had always been very career driven. My grandfather was a nuclear engineer. My grandmother was like a mental level literature professor at University of Florida. And I had a very, you know, very clear trajectory. My mom never really went that way. So I felt all the more competitive. I had what they call golden child syndrome. And I

[Supdaily]:

Wait,

[Chloe Sexton]:

felt like

[Supdaily]:

what's

[Chloe Sexton]:

I took

[Supdaily]:

that?

[Chloe Sexton]:

an approved

[Supdaily]:

What's golden

[Chloe Sexton]:

golden

[Supdaily]:

child?

[Chloe Sexton]:

child syndrome. Basically the immense, immense pressure to overperform and be perfect at everything, simply because I watched my mom live. We lived in section eight. We had food stamps my entire life. If she wasn't sick, she was unemployed. And the rest of my family, that set a very... fractured emotional setting. So I was like, TV, I'm gonna be really good at this. I'm a very strong writer. I'm gonna be the next Anderson Cooper. But all of that, you know, you end up burnt out by the time you're 23. You

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

start college when you're 17, and you take the ACT three times. And by the end of it, I was just like, that is not it. This is not what it's supposed to be like. This didn't do what I thought it was gonna do. I thought this was gonna make me so happy. and that making these people proud that I didn't really need their approval in the first place, it's never gonna be enough. So

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I thought, you know, where can I possibly apply my skills when I still have no degree? So I got into marketing and that might as well have just been a topic.

[Supdaily]:

I would say almost more than

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh yeah!

[Supdaily]:

TV. I don't know why, maybe you know why.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Anything that you're trying to sell is going to become toxic. That's just what it is. You commercialize people and it's toxic. So if you're working in marketing and you're on a team of people who's supposed to charm and flatter people into spending money with you, it's going to be toxic. You're never going to be charming enough. You're never going to be interesting enough to make enough money. It'll never be enough.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

So.

[Supdaily]:

some of the marketing techniques that you'd have to use sometimes also like I like people as much as they can be crappy sometimes. But so the idea of having to figure out different ways to manipulate them to do what I want, it's just it's very hard to do that and also maintain your sense of self or like who you are, like who you are at your core. They like you have to compromise quite a bit.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, I think it's definitely because I still I keep in contact with and I know a lot of people that I've worked with in TV I never left Memphis. So Now mind you I've probably only lived here like seven years total now, but all of my professional career was here So now they're walking into my degree I'm still friends with them on Facebook and everything and I think they're all pretty surprised to see that I'm as open as I am on social media. I definitely never was that way before

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, I think what you did is kind of what I did too, where you have an idea of, you kind of do what you were spoon fed. You're doing

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thank you.

[Supdaily]:

like, you go to school, like I come from a small Midwest town. You go to school, you get a degree, you come home, live in your hometown, get 2.5 and a wide picket fence,

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm going to go ahead and close the video.

[Supdaily]:

work somewhere that you watched the previous generation work, like rinse and repeat. What was the moment where that got disrupted for you? Where you were just like, hey, I... None of this works. I'm going to

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

move in this baking direction. What was that moment for you?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I think it was the amount of time that I actually ended up being alone with myself. So

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

working midnight to 8 a.m., five days a week, nobody showed up to the TV station to manage anything until our first broadcast. So nobody would show up until like 5 a.m. and

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

we go on at 6. So that's five hours in the dead of night in a creepy news station just like alone with yourself and your thoughts and all of the worst things on the planet that I'm expected to be a part of. Like I remember must have been like 22 years old. And one night there was a club shooting going on. And my producer called me and he was just like, hey, somebody's actually live streaming that shooting right now. If you could just get on and start, you know, screen recording it. And I was like, okay, well with the sound and everything, can I just put it on one of those screens over there and just set it up to record? And I don't have to listen to it. And he was like, no, we need the sound and everything. Cause they might say something. So essentially I was put in a position alone I am not to go into detail, but what you could imagine seeing in a club shooting, very up close and personal. And I don't know what anybody in their right mind is thinking, putting their phone camera on a body that is somebody, that is somebody

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

to a lot of people. And they're in this horrible traumatizing position. And you put your phone, like your Facebook live streaming this, not because. you're personally in danger anymore. It was the aftermath and they didn't think it was unreasonable to ask a 22 year old to watch this and to have to watch it and to record it so that they could later you know blur some stuff out but put it up for little bits on tv and

[Supdaily]:

It's

[Chloe Sexton]:

it

[Supdaily]:

dehumanizing. It's like you forget that that's a person.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I fell in love with journalism and being the next Anderson Cooper because I was watching Anderson Cooper on the front lines during the war, on the ground with the people that we were necessarily fighting against. But he was there for a reason. He was telling a story. He was trying to show people things that they weren't going to see at home because all they're watching is their local news. And it served a purpose. I felt like it was heroism. And here I was, screen recording someone. dead and I was just like this is I can't do this I cannot do this for the rest of my life it's never going to get any better than this the only thing that will change about my situation is they will start what paying me more what what number can you put on the way that I feel right now so to kind of like shake off stuff when I would go home um I was baking you know I've been doing that since I was a kid but I really hyper-focused on getting to school and taking care of my mom and so I laid off for a while so I got back into baking again and it was just something I could do during daylight hours. It's like I couldn't go out with any of my friends and I couldn't ever get shmammered because I might get called in. So I was just baking all the time, baking and basically living at my local library. It was something very peaceful to me that I could get super hyper-focused on that took me out of you know what was really a mentally unwell situation. And the more I moved into marketing, the more I was like on the side trying to go, you know, the skills I'm learning, working for this marketing firm, I think they could work for me.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Like they wanted me to take over other people's Instagram accounts and I'm like, I don't know anything about how to do that. And they're like, okay, so they will learn it. Take little, what is it called? HubSpot, HubSpot marketing courses.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, they have all those certification

[Chloe Sexton]:

So.

[Supdaily]:

things now.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, I was using what they were asking me to learn so that they could add that to their list of skills at their agency. I was using my bluff-taked Instagram to kind of see if what they were talking about worked. People would put out a lot of advice on how to make social media more successful and how to make it work and how these algorithms work. And a lot of it's just noise. A lot of it's just

[Supdaily]:

But at

[Chloe Sexton]:

noise.

[Supdaily]:

this point you were already selling the things that you were baking?

[Chloe Sexton]:

No,

[Supdaily]:

No,

[Chloe Sexton]:

no, I was just sharing my hobby.

[Supdaily]:

cause...

[Chloe Sexton]:

So I was.

[Supdaily]:

So there was no business, you were just sharing the things that you were baking on social media for funsies.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I was. I had created an Instagram. It wasn't on my first Instagram. I created an Instagram as a fresh start to see if any of these things worked for BluffCakes. And every time I made a cake, every time I made cookies, every time I did whatever, I was sharing those pictures on BluffCakes and trying to not have my mom and my friends and my family follow it, but try to get other people interested in it and put myself out there and see if I was any good at this stuff.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I got hooked because I was like, I actually am good. People aren't interested in me, not because, you know, my mom's friends, but like, because I'm actually set at it.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So, um, it started going from there. And then, um, the more that I was bringing stuff to work, people that I worked with in TV and then eventually in marketing got used to like, like, what'd you bring today? What's up? What you got?

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

And, uh, the more that I would do that, that's kind of how I segued into, um, hey, my kid's kind of our favorite figure. Have you ever done? like a llama themed cake and I'm like absolutely

[Supdaily]:

No.

[Chloe Sexton]:

have not. I lied my, I

[Supdaily]:

As long

[Chloe Sexton]:

lied my

[Supdaily]:

as

[Chloe Sexton]:

penta

[Supdaily]:

you get it

[Chloe Sexton]:

so

[Supdaily]:

done,

[Chloe Sexton]:

hard.

[Supdaily]:

you had to go make it the truth. You just wasn't the truth yet. Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I was like, when do you need that? You need that in... Hi, Robin. Robin is

[Supdaily]:

Just

[Chloe Sexton]:

also on TikTok.

[Supdaily]:

just so you guys know, she's she's giving us time in her office. So if there's sounds happening, she's running a business. So.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh, Robin's got like a million followers on TikTok. He's just a shit poster though. God damn it, shouldn't even have to work for

[Supdaily]:

I know

[Chloe Sexton]:

it.

[Supdaily]:

I see people who post stuff and they're like just reacting to something and getting all these views. I'm like, what am I doing? I'm trying to make a difference. And like, anyway.

[Chloe Sexton]:

No. Yeah, so I would ask them, you know, what you need to add seven days? That's nothing. I would spend the entire seven days trying to make it and it would be just like so bad and then throwing it away and starting over until I perfected it and I would act like, oh yeah, it was nothing.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, that must have been pretty panicky though when you've been commissioned

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh, yeah.

[Supdaily]:

to do that and then you weren't accomplishing it. But I think that's an example. Like you're not the first step to being good at something is being bad at it, you know, and you've got to like

[Chloe Sexton]:

Absolutely.

[Supdaily]:

practice your way up. But there's a there's a moment that I want to go back to, though, because you were like, I couldn't go out with my

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thanks

[Supdaily]:

friends

[Chloe Sexton]:

for watching!

[Supdaily]:

and you just subtly dropped the commune bomb. when we were talking beforehand. Can we get into that a little bit?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yes. So, let's see, I, my mom, she knew a lot of different people. I'll honestly put out there something I don't talk about in my big talk is that my mother was manic bipolar. And

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

so anybody who was raised by a bipolar parent, especially if they had, you know, really high highs and really low lows,

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

is you knew a lot of different people built into one person. And it really just depended on, you know, season of life they were in. So the mom that I grew up with from like birth to I think we moved when I was like 11 or 12. My mom was a very big, you know, queer activist. She very openly bisexual. I was raised, you know, in the early 2000s going to like a Pride Fest in Gainesville, Florida. You did not see another child. Really didn't, except for like my mom's little gaggle of friends. And those little like crunchy weirdos that she was

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

in with. I mean, these are the kind of people that are still breastfeeding when their kids seven years old. Done in that country. Oh, yeah.

[Supdaily]:

Oh, alright.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Did you know patchouli deodorant?

[Supdaily]:

No,

[Chloe Sexton]:

No, it's

[Supdaily]:

it

[Chloe Sexton]:

not.

[Supdaily]:

is not!

[Chloe Sexton]:

No,

[Supdaily]:

The...

[Chloe Sexton]:

it is not.

[Supdaily]:

nope!

[Chloe Sexton]:

So that, uh, that was my mom. And, uh, she was really big on taking me to protest and just all around, very outspoken activists. Um, but she also, she really struggled with substance abuse. when I was probably seven years old. My mom was a manager at a Joanne's Fabric, and she used to bike to work three miles each way, and she got hit by a truck, and her bike pedal went through her knee. So I used to walk myself several blocks to and from school at that age, and I got home, I was used to letting myself in, and kind of just waiting for my mom to show up maybe an hour later, and it started getting dark. It had been hours, and... you know, we'd have cell phones back in that day. And so if I didn't know someone's number by heart and I didn't, other than my mom's work numbers, and they weren't answering, and there was one friend I knew, nobody was answering. Eventually we got to like almost my bedtime. And I heard some people outside and my mom's friends were like helping carry her in and she had this massive cast on her leg. And they were like, oh my God, yeah, you know, your mom's in this situation, she's gotta take these pills every few hours. And yeah, okay, bye. And that kind of started one of her slipperiest slopes was opioids.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So, um, I honestly didn't really catch on until I was a good bit older, but, um, for the next few years, it was kind of like off and on. Like getting evicted, moving to section eight out of our rental, um, not really going back to having a job and just not really being present. kind of learning from like seven, eight on take care of myself. And that was tough because sometimes, you know, she was doing fantastic. She was a super parent. She was coming to all of my classes as like a teacher's assistant. And then sometimes it was, you know, all of the, all the rooms are kept very, very dark. Don't talk too loud to mommy. So that was tough. And around the age of 12 is when one of her closest friends who had been through similar situations said, hey, you know, I'm moving to Tennessee. My father has a commune there. And I think we both need a fresh start and I think you need to get clean. And we're just gonna uproot everything when I go. And so we did. And that pretty much meant, you know, going from this very queer, outspoken, protest level activist background to 300 acres on the outskirts. of a very small population town, Holtz, Elmer, Tennessee, where women did not work and they were subservient. There were about 18 houses that were really more like built on trailers

[Supdaily]:

Hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and people lived three to four families to a house. Nobody walked through the doors. All the children did childcare for all the other children. We homeschooled in a co-op level, like in one building together, all grades were the same grade. Yeah,

[Supdaily]:

Were there

[Chloe Sexton]:

so,

[Supdaily]:

any religious

[Chloe Sexton]:

no.

[Supdaily]:

aspects of it or was it just...

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh yeah, it was deeply religious.

[Supdaily]:

Okay.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So something that I think a lot of cults classify themselves as is that they are an intentional community that is non-denominational with the belief that the outside world is toxic and. they don't integrate themselves into society. So there is no, you know, they went as far as to have a small trailer that they turned into a grocery store on the property. Like

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

TVs were not a thing, music that was not either classical or Celtic because we were all also taught Celtic dancing and made to compete. Celtic dancing.

[Supdaily]:

You got a lot going on here.

[Chloe Sexton]:

There was also like. A few times a year they would do rituals. So they did something that's in the Bible called an in-gathering, where

[Supdaily]:

in

[Chloe Sexton]:

essentially

[Supdaily]:

gathering.

[Chloe Sexton]:

they would do a giant... Yeah, it gets real biblical. Basically everybody camps instead of living in their own houses for a week, and they do a massive fire, like the size of a house level

[Supdaily]:

Uh huh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

fire, and you would throw anything into the fire that was ungodly. So it was suggested to me that all the CDs that I came onto the property with, like B-52, and go-gos and all this like eclectic music my mother had taught me to love as well as my Kelly Clarkson album. Very offended.

[Supdaily]:

Right, and you ended up on her show. Did you tell her that?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I did not because

[Supdaily]:

Ah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

how would you possibly go, it's so crazy this one time I was living in a cult and they made me burn your album. Break away. So no,

[Supdaily]:

No?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I didn't know what was that.

[Supdaily]:

Hey, give it a shot though. So

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, no, yeah,

[Supdaily]:

did

[Chloe Sexton]:

for sure.

[Supdaily]:

this help your mom? Because your mom was having substance abuse issues at that point, comes there to get clean, completely shifts her entire mindset, way of living to adapt to this place, correct? Did it

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah.

[Supdaily]:

help with her substance abuse issues?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I mean, yes, in the sense that there's no way to get them.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

You weren't gonna be able to find pills anywhere near you. Like I said, it's on the outskirts of a town that was population 6,000 on a good

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

day.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And maybe during a fleeting fact, but

[Supdaily]:

Oh, soybeans

[Chloe Sexton]:

no, there's

[Supdaily]:

smell

[Chloe Sexton]:

no.

[Supdaily]:

so bad. I used to live in an area that grew soy. That smell will follow me for the rest of my life.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah,

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

and then I went to college surrounded by a foiving field

[Supdaily]:

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Chloe Sexton]:

at UT Martin. Yeah, I can't get away from them. Um, so in a sense that, you know, she could not get, it was very much like cut and dry, clean break. She was clean. Yes. But then we entered this like ultra religious era where it was like, we were never going to speak again about the fact that we lived with her partner Rian for like a year and a half. She was like another mom to me. and that was over. That was over. We were never gonna talk about that had ever happened. We weren't gonna talk about the fact that most of these kids didn't know what sex was until they were well above the age of 18. And I knew, interesting. I knew, interesting.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, it's just, it's

[Chloe Sexton]:

I

[Supdaily]:

crazy

[Chloe Sexton]:

think my mom

[Supdaily]:

to me.

[Chloe Sexton]:

left a copy. Yeah, what?

[Supdaily]:

It's crazy to me, like, how your head as a kid had to have been spinning because you had this whole way of being and then it shifts to this whole other way. And you're looking to your I'm assuming looking to your mom for guidance on that and just, were you just blindly going with what she was saying? Or were you questioning things within yourself?

[Chloe Sexton]:

taught to blindly go with anything, but it quickly became apparent that that was not going to be acceptable. Their structure for leadership there was, do you want to guess? Men.

[Supdaily]:

GASP

[Chloe Sexton]:

Five, to be specific. In a property that was holding over 300 people at that time, there were five men who called on the shots. They decided where people lived, they decided what their rules were about music, how women were supposed to dress. And when we arrived was when they were in their progressive era, right?

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

They had done the head coverings and the full length dresses and to the ground, sorts of stuff. And now you could wear a Bermuda shirt that reached your cap. So

[Supdaily]:

Get outta

[Chloe Sexton]:

it was

[Supdaily]:

here.

[Chloe Sexton]:

like, it was some hot girl summer shirt. Yeah. So I, they weren't afraid to say, this group of men were not afraid to say when introducing me into the mix with their children, I was seen as an issue. I was seen as a problem because I knew shit their kids didn't know. I could potentially put at risk the idea that many, if not all of them, did not know what homosexuality was. So I would think it's a little bit of a danger. not going to say that they outright said that they would hit me, but they definitely made it clear that like in this property, in this style of life, we do corporate punishment with our children. And we will gladly do the same to yours. If she talks back to you again, because we had conversations as equals, it was always just me and my mom and she never kept anything from me even things that she should have. And they made it known that I was either going to fit in or I was not going to fit in and not So I think I just learned to. change myself enough and get quiet enough for that period of time to not put myself in danger because it definitely felt dangerous. And it wasn't a safe place for women. It was not

[Supdaily]:

Right.

[Chloe Sexton]:

a safe place for women. I would not even 100% of the time say it was a safe place for children because that I knew of by the time I got out, which is why I graduated when I was 17 and went to college. I kind of just homeschooled as fast as possible to get myself out of there. But

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

there were

[Supdaily]:

this

[Chloe Sexton]:

three

[Supdaily]:

is why

[Chloe Sexton]:

different

[Supdaily]:

you went

[Chloe Sexton]:

predators.

[Supdaily]:

to college at 17, yeah?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yes,

[Supdaily]:

To escape.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I was trying to get out. Yeah, I was trying to get out. And I was trying to get out as fast as possible. I was also the only person in the village at that time who was going to college or had ever considered it.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm. So he said there's three different predators.

[Chloe Sexton]:

There were, that I knew of by the time I left, is that there were three different predators who hurt children and

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

they did not tell the police. They just asked them to leave the property because that would bring unwanted attention to what they were trying to build there.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

And so they would just ask them to leave. And that was it, that was all that would happen. So it definitely wasn't a fantastic place for kids or women, it was a great place for men, let me tell you. It's a great place for them.

[Supdaily]:

I mean, it seems like that was that was like one of the things that they kind of built their own little playground is what it sounds like. They don't have to answer to anybody. I'm sure God told them to do awful things to people and you just went with it because of religion.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I didn't, you know, I never saw myself as staying there. And I think, you know, I will say there's this like level of safety that when you come from what I came from which is like, oh shit, the power's out. Maybe it'll be on in three days. Like, you know, mom didn't grocery shop again. I'm scared for my stability. There is this like appeal as a kid to be on this beautiful spread of property where you like to get to ride horses. And it feels a little bit like summer camp. But

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

there's a much darker aspect to it, which you are never going to be what you want to be. You're never going to be what you want to be. There's a very specific thing that you can be, that is a mother and that is in the kitchen. And that's just about it. You can work at, so they all supported this property by working at the exact same business. They would get on a bus together off of the property, go to work at this business and come back on that bus. So there was no crossover. I think the moment that it really became real to me that this place was always going to be incredibly dangerous and I had to do whatever it took to get out is I was 15 and those five men who were the leaders of this place, called Rose Creek Village by the way, I don't mind putting that out there.

[Supdaily]:

Rose Creek Village.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yes, there were five men who were the leaders and one of these leaders, Sun, started passing me notes in our little co-op situation. and basically just like going, oh my God, I'm so in love with you. And so they just love bombing,

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

that kind of shit. And so in love with you, so obsessed with you, all of this. And mind you, I was a very pudgy, curly haired ginger with no eyebrows because makeup was not allowed

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and a mouth full of gear. And just

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha.

[Chloe Sexton]:

dying for this moment, like everything to me.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And convinced me to meet him behind one of the pieces of property one night. um to make out essentially and um I wasn't really comfortable with that but I also wasn't accustomed to being able to tell anyone even a guy my own age no um so I arrived he got a flashlight and was basically saying like yeah no no no no no yeah I will totally tell everyone on the planet I'm

[Supdaily]:

What?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Like, what just happened here? I thought someone was like totally in love with me and everything else. So I run away from that situation. Boobs intact. Boobs intact.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I'm like, I cannot believe that just happened to me. Like, I thought that happened on the outside in the world where people are bad. And like everyone in here is good and has good intentions. And like that's not the purpose of this. That's a leader's son. What the... So I... before I could tell anybody, he went and told on himself and told the situation completely differently

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and not creepy at all. And I was not allowed to leave my yard for three or four months. I essentially became all but the Scarlet Letter. Like not only did everybody get told, everybody got told what I had done,

[Supdaily]:

Wait,

[Chloe Sexton]:

I had done wrong.

[Supdaily]:

can you tell the version of events that he told?

[Chloe Sexton]:

What he told is that I was totally obsessed with him, this poor ugly pudgy girl, I was totally obsessed with him and led him astray, as women do. You know, tales

[Supdaily]:

That's

[Chloe Sexton]:

all this time in the Bible.

[Supdaily]:

man, that is a conversation I have so often. And you still see these conversations, I can imagine it's kind of triggering to you. It's like, why is it someone else's job to cover up and not be tempting instead of

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

the person who is having the attraction deal with their own internal things? Tell

[Chloe Sexton]:

You're

[Supdaily]:

your sons

[Chloe Sexton]:

right.

[Supdaily]:

to behave themselves essentially instead of tell your daughters to not tempt the sons. Like that sounds like

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh

[Supdaily]:

a

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah.

[Supdaily]:

them issue.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So they had a big old every adult in the village meeting about what I'd done and my friends weren't allowed to talk to me. I wasn't allowed to leave the house. We could do a lot more baking, give you that.

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

And

[Supdaily]:

you were baking

[Chloe Sexton]:

you

[Supdaily]:

the

[Chloe Sexton]:

know,

[Supdaily]:

whole time in the commune too? Okay.

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah, yeah. So that was, I think I really just kind of snapped and I became the best kid on the planet. I spent so much time studying. So much time completing all of this. You know, it's really easy to rate through your schoolwork if you're homeschooling.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So completing all of my daughters that I needed to complete and applying, applying, applying to every college I could possibly find. And yeah, he really, I think he was grounded a little bit but most of the time the tone was just like, she's a problem, she is trouble, she's nothing but a harlot. What disgusting worldly behavior. and that poor boy let us stray. And yeah, I got a lot of violent thoughts. Got a lot

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

of violent thoughts.

[Supdaily]:

so like you snapped but your response

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

was to basically speed run the process of getting out of there. Were you

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh yeah.

[Supdaily]:

conducting yourself the way that they wanted to so that they left you

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh

[Supdaily]:

alone?

[Chloe Sexton]:

my God, I asked them to baptize me. I asked to go to a mission trip where I spent six months, not six months, sorry, six weeks in Kenya, Nairobi and the Peru. I was doing all of my fours while I was there as well. I finished a high school level amount of my biology classes by myself while in Kenya. And I was constantly going like, you know what we should do? We should do a little book club, but we work our way through the books of life. And the women are like, it goes on and on.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I did it all. And then I got accepted to, because you know, you have to have the permission of your leaders and of the men in your life in that kind of setup, where if I'm going to go to college, they better approve. They better approve. And right off the bat, they were like, unacceptable, not okay. And I was like, okay, well, 30 minutes away from the property, there is a private Church of Christ. which is women don't speak in church, like no instruments allowed ever kind of situation, very locked down, private school, university. And I was like, I actually have a full ride, I've already been accepted and it's only 30 minutes away. So like I'd be back all the time. And even then they were like, you're just gonna end up a partying whore. Why would we let you do that? And my mom was like, no, she can go. My mom was coming out of this like haze of like. putting herself down for that many years. I think that moment also really snapped her where she realized that as safe as she felt and as provided as she felt and where like people actually made her feel like she was valuable in the world, even though on the outside she was on disability and she was just a person who had a history of substance abuse, she was valuable there. She was a jewelry maker, she was a seller. They make you feel so valuable when you're doing things for them.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I think it finally made her realize just how little they do value. me and how horrible they were willing to treat me. And so she was fully behind my back with getting into college and getting myself ready and decorating my dorm and everything. I got out and I never went back.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. What happened with

[Chloe Sexton]:

never

[Supdaily]:

her?

[Chloe Sexton]:

went back.

[Supdaily]:

Was she still there?

[Chloe Sexton]:

She was there for maybe a month longer.

[Supdaily]:

then where'd she go?

[Chloe Sexton]:

She moved into what was essentially section 8 against you. What she could afford, but she wasn't willing to, because I made it perfectly clear to her. I was like, listen, I'm not gonna make this known out there, but I'm not coming back. And you can do what you want, but I cannot come back here ever again.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So you either need to find your way out or accept the fact that we're part of the way. I can't do that.

[Supdaily]:

What was her

[Chloe Sexton]:

And

[Supdaily]:

reaction to that?

[Chloe Sexton]:

she's like, I'm out, I'm out, let's go. So.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I think at that point, she also felt like she'd done her duty. She kept me safe. That's what she was trying to do. She's trying to keep me safe, but from her own mistakes, her own actions, our circumstances, and she did give up a lot by losing because,

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

you know, she was just minding her business, doing her hobbies. Nobody made her work. She had a lot of friends and she was really happy there, but we had exactly different experiences. Um, so, but she gave it up and she left. and she moved into a not so nice apartment and I went to school.

[Supdaily]:

Now, was there an adjustment period where you were kind of, cause you've been disconnected from the world for how long at this point?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Uh, seven years.

[Supdaily]:

So you were disconnected for seven years, you go back into the world. What were some things that when you came out of it, you were surprised by, taken aback by, like things that you didn't know about when you re-entered society?

[Chloe Sexton]:

uh, social media.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Social media a lot. I was, you know, what was that, 2012 is when I got out. And I was, you know, that was probably peak Facebook time to be like, Chloe, Chloe Joy is

[Supdaily]:

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

eating a burger.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh my god, the way those things haunt me in my

[Supdaily]:

I know.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Facebook memories.

[Supdaily]:

I went back recently and looked at some of those things. I was like, oh, man, like, maybe I should just start over again, because I don't need that evidence out there of

[Chloe Sexton]:

No,

[Supdaily]:

me being that

[Chloe Sexton]:

the

[Supdaily]:

cringe.

[Chloe Sexton]:

amount of pictures I deleted, oh my god, the learning curve of selfies and just like, I got situated with a really great roommate who was just like, oh baby, oh girl,

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

we gotta work on, we gotta work on whatever's going on here. Like, we cannot be seen eating in a dining hall together when you are dressing like this. And I'm like, what's that?

[Supdaily]:

Come on.

[Chloe Sexton]:

You don't like

[Supdaily]:

Women love pockets. Do you believe in the conspiracy theory that one of the reasons that women's clothing doesn't have pockets is because the purse industry wants you to buy more purses?

[Chloe Sexton]:

If so, it's not working.

[Supdaily]:

No?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Not working for me. I own one purse and I mostly keep my crap in my hands or on many surfaces, so it's not working on me.

[Supdaily]:

Whenever a girl shows me an outfit, I learn one or both of these things, how cheap it was that she got it for and if it has pockets,

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh yeah,

[Supdaily]:

always

[Chloe Sexton]:

that's

[Supdaily]:

every

[Chloe Sexton]:

it

[Supdaily]:

single

[Chloe Sexton]:

for me.

[Supdaily]:

time.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh yeah, for a girl who grew up on Goodwill, first of all, love that place. Love the smell.

[Supdaily]:

Me too. Well, the smell?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Listen,

[Supdaily]:

I was

[Chloe Sexton]:

I

[Supdaily]:

with

[Chloe Sexton]:

brought

[Supdaily]:

you till

[Chloe Sexton]:

my husband,

[Supdaily]:

smell.

[Chloe Sexton]:

my husband and I grew up very differently, obviously,

[Supdaily]:

Uh huh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and he's very much a bougie little princess.

[Supdaily]:

Wow.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I'm watching my back over here, like,

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

is he gonna be here? And when I brought him in, I was like, I have a great idea. It's time to start working on Halloween costumes, because I'm a sass. And when I tell you I brought that man into a goodwill, and he was like, squeak, squeak, squeak. And I'm like, I'm not gonna do that.

[Supdaily]:

You can find so many cool things.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm having so much fun!

[Supdaily]:

I

[Chloe Sexton]:

Look at

[Supdaily]:

did

[Chloe Sexton]:

this belt!

[Supdaily]:

find someone's ashes one time, and that was a bit dark. Like, why

[Chloe Sexton]:

Ugh.

[Supdaily]:

do they not check those things? I'm not sure.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I don't think I would be checking much of anything if I worked there.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. Okay, so you, so you're out, your mom is out. At what point did brain cancer enter your life where you were for your mom?

[Chloe Sexton]:

That actually happened while we were in the village. So

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

first time she, before the end of her life, she, I'll say got it back four times. First time I was 16. And it was shortly after all of that, crack went down. And I had left, they shipped me to, they shipped me off essentially. They were trying to make a little satellite version of their commune in California.

[Supdaily]:

Mm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and somebody there was having a baby, so they wanted me to go help her and basically be like her little assistant. So they flew me to California so I would be there. Before I left, I was like, mom, is that this little lumpy situation growing right here? And I've seen enough pictures of skin cancer and I know how your father died, so could you please get that checked out while I'm gone? And she was like, I don't know what to, we're talking like a growth

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

right here. She's like, it's not that big of a deal, it's probably fine. And I'm like. please get that checked out. And she got that checked out while I was gone. She didn't tell me. And I was standing in an airport in San Antonio when my grandmother called me and we're not like close or anything. We weren't at the time. And she just thought in telling me that like, hey, no matter what happens to your mom, just know that we're gonna get you out of there. We're gonna take care of you. You're gonna be fine. I'm like, what are you talking about? And she was like the brain cooler. Like in the middle of an airport, I'm 16 years old and I'm like, what are you talking about? What? Like I thought this must have been some huge laughable mistake, but no, I started getting told basically over text what was going on. And I got picked up in Nashville and I was driving to Jackson, which was like three plus hours of a drive with one of the men from the village, just in silence, thieving. This was something that the men of the village and my mother decided were best. I waited to find out until I got back and I was gone for like three weeks. So by the time I got there, there was about two days till they were going to do an invasive surgery. Basically they immediately looked at her skin, knew that she had a skin cancer and went, if this is melanoma, melanoma can migrate. We're gonna go in and give you a full scan and they found a golf ball-sized brain tumor. And had that been melanoma that migrated to the brain, could have been like weeks and they were still going like, oh, she shouldn't find out, so she comes. could have had weeks and they still kept me there to do what they needed me to do

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

and wait until I got back. So in my eyes that's just despicable. You know you stole time from me that I could have had very limited amounts of. So I got back, I went straight to the hospital, someone was cutting her hair like all of her hair off. She's got a lot of hair and yes she had her first major brain surgery there. She did radiation and then she basically had to learn to walk again. She had a lot of trouble remembering things, the kind of things that come back. You know, your brain fills the holes that they dig after some time. But and then, yeah, I took care of her again. And after I left for school and everything, so that was maybe three, four years later. I only spent about a year at that first school initially, and then I went into a much different kind of school,

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

University of Tennessee at Martin, where

[Supdaily]:

Mm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

80% of the school is Greek, and I was like, this would be a great idea. I know what I'm doing. God,

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

oh my God, oh my God. Yeah, that was a lot. I think I dated every sport in my first year, and yeah, I joined a sorority. That was something.

[Supdaily]:

What sorority were you in?

[Chloe Sexton]:

and it's an 80 pi.

[Supdaily]:

My mom was an ADPi.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, well.

[Supdaily]:

And I was an ATO.

[Chloe Sexton]:

had ATO. Oh no, we did have ATO at my school. And then they hate someone so hard, you lost an eyeball and they kicked them off the school. Yeah.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, I was actually the founding father of my chapter because the former ATOs messed up for a while.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thank

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

you.

[Supdaily]:

we were trying to build a better reputation. But generally, when I said ATO, I was like, okay, here comes a story about how they hate someone and got kicked off campus because it was unfortunately

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah,

[Supdaily]:

a common

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah, they

[Supdaily]:

occurrence.

[Chloe Sexton]:

did. So two years of, you know, Greek life, party life, I was, I was hosting a show at our school radio station. My mom got sick again. And that's when I left and never ended up moving out. So

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I guess I'll be getting my junior year. I left because in that amount of time while I was at school. My mom had left the DeLogic course and then she met someone and she had my sister, which most people go like, I'm not going to send her mom into radiation. She did, but she only had radiation in her head.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Gamma radiation. So all the bits were still ticking and she used them.

[Supdaily]:

Was

[Chloe Sexton]:

And

[Supdaily]:

she,

[Chloe Sexton]:

now we know.

[Supdaily]:

was she surprised by this, this new child or was it kind of a planned thing?

[Chloe Sexton]:

with plans. You know,

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I think, I think my mom got a little bit more honest with herself years down the road, but at first initially it was like, what? That's crazy. And I'm like, you seeming little flute. You don't fool me. You don't

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

fool me for one second. She was so excited.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And yeah, I was 19 when Charlotte was born.

[Supdaily]:

And that's like, she's going through all of that and has a child.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

Like, I think a lot of people would have been like, hey, I'm going through, I have cancer and I'm going through all of this, maybe not bring a life into the world right now. Your mom seems like she kind of marched to a different beat than most of the world.

[Chloe Sexton]:

She really did. She didn't give tooth to tooth. She had pretty much always,

[Supdaily]:

She was gonna

[Chloe Sexton]:

she

[Supdaily]:

live her

[Chloe Sexton]:

was

[Supdaily]:

life.

[Chloe Sexton]:

always asking, like, she was not dying. I'm

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

not dying. She was either acting like, I'm not dying, or, you know, I'm dying tomorrow. Kind of a blend of both behaviors where it was just kind of like, you know, do whatever I like.

[Supdaily]:

It's kind

[Chloe Sexton]:

She

[Supdaily]:

of like

[Chloe Sexton]:

was the kind

[Supdaily]:

it's

[Chloe Sexton]:

of

[Supdaily]:

a.

[Chloe Sexton]:

person who saw medical stories just like hers. And she's like, and they lived till they were 85. So naturally the math is that I will as well.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

side of that.

[Supdaily]:

It's like it's like my mind goes two different ways, like good on you for like continuing to live your life, but also like, is that a responsible decision? Did you have thoughts like that within you or you just kind of like that's her?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh, I was mad. It was very nice. And my mom was not somebody who didn't think she had a choice. Oh, my mother was very open about abortion and pro-choice and everything like that. This was her decision. She was not doing this because she felt that she had to. No, she wanted her, and she was excited. And she felt like it was a new chapter in her life. And she loved being a mom. And she felt like she was in a completely different situation because you know, She was on a really good path at that time, she was really happy, she was in a great living situation, and she felt like, you know, it was gonna make her happy, but also that it was a good idea. I

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

don't know if it was. But I wasn't mad, because I was scared for her. I was like, and what happens when they find out you're sick again, and you have a baby? Well, guess what, they did.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, that's all that very possible thing became a reality. Like, like, because your mom came back from it several times. Though, I mean, the last time was obviously the last time. What was the news at that point that it was inoperable, that like that it was just terminal at that point, or was it always terminal?

[Chloe Sexton]:

It was not a voice terminal and it wasn't her brain cancer that killed her essentially. When you operate on a human brain enough times, it develops scar tissue. It fills in all those little holes of what they removed with what was explained to me by a surgeon, don't hold me there because

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm no rocket surgeon here, but basically jello. It's

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

like brain jello. And so it just fills in all the holes, but also scar tissue. when it was a long road to figuring out that it was the end, but when they figured out that we were coming to the end, which I still was pretty much denying, I was in denial about it throughout like a lot of the process, when I had to move her into a home because I couldn't move her into my home, it was temporary. It was basically just a physical therapy. It was fine. That was not true. And then I never should have brought myself down that road, but I did. When we got to a point where her neurosurgeon like right hand nurse. I had asked her from the very beginning, I'm like, I don't need this to be pretty, I'm really not interested in it. I have a lot of my lines, I have a little sister, I really need you to be perfectly honest with me well before something bad happens. And when we got to that point, she did, she called me, she was like, I promise you that I was gonna be really, really honest. This is how this works. You open up the human brain enough times, it just cannot handle anymore. There's too much scar tissue. That scar tissue is glowing. That scar tissue is putting even more trauma and stress on her brain. It's basically fighting for room. We open it up and we remove that. It's just gonna happen again. And every time that you do that, your mom is at a little bit less of herself and more confused. And honestly, I'd be hard for us to find anybody willing to operate on her again. It's just gonna cause her pain. So it wasn't. she phrased it like I had a choice to put her in hospice. I did not. There was no choice, but the tone is appreciated. I can look back on that and appreciate that her tone was like, I feel like this is the best course. There was never going to be another course.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

At that point, the decision was, you know, make her comfortable, tell her the truth, and let's try to not make this all a fight to the end, like, because you don't deserve that. I know that's like a, that's a real raw raw sentiment for people with cancer. They're like, no, be a fighter, be a fighter, be a fighter. You don't deserve to have to, you know, sometimes you just, you want to be done and you deserve to be done if you fought that long because it's so painful.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And when you're constantly focused on a better outcome than what's right in front of you, you're never actually going to be there for the last amount of time that you have.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. And how did your mom take this news when she, when they let her know?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, I did not help her. Um, I. Still, I'm going to stay mad about that till I die, but essentially some green ass doctor fresh out of school. Um, and I, I, I put my eyes on the guy was one time and thought violent thoughts, like how fucking dare you.

[Supdaily]:

Not not

[Chloe Sexton]:

What

[Supdaily]:

your

[Chloe Sexton]:

right

[Supdaily]:

first

[Chloe Sexton]:

do you

[Supdaily]:

not

[Chloe Sexton]:

think

[Supdaily]:

your

[Chloe Sexton]:

you

[Supdaily]:

first

[Chloe Sexton]:

have

[Supdaily]:

time

[Chloe Sexton]:

to go? Hey, just you know, let's get this over with. Rip the bandaid off. You are dying. You are, and you're going to host this. Sorry, please. Didn't even put it that way. It was just like, yeah, you're going to host this. Your family will be here probably in like an hour. We'll see. And fucking leave. Fucking leave.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

By the time my grandparents got into town and went to go see her, because yeah, I'm trying to bake, I'm trying to open a business and run a business. I couldn't be there every minute of every day, but I was there every day at some point, some hour. And... My grandmother just called me and she was just like, they told her, they just told her some doctor apparently walked in here, the really young one that you've seen before. And yeah,

[Supdaily]:

That's

[Chloe Sexton]:

so

[Supdaily]:

why

[Chloe Sexton]:

that was unacceptable.

[Supdaily]:

it's so important. Like if you have the ability, I was with my grandma for the last two weeks of her life. And I'm so glad that I was because no one cares about her the way that I care about her. And some messages got confusing and I made sure I was there to let them know like, hey, this is what's going on. What you said was incorrect because they didn't pass information appropriately. And I realized that they're dealing with a lot of other people. But if you have the capacity to advocate for your family member, it's just so. massively helpful because sometimes you run into people like that guy.

[Chloe Sexton]:

For me, advocating for my mom was something that consumed the last year and a half for being alive

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

for me. And that was probably the most disparaging way I've ever felt about humanity in my life was realizing how little people just do for others that they can see are in so much pain or are mentally not well or not there. And she wasn't herself for the last portion of her life. can't open someone's brain that many times and expect them to stay the same. There was a lot of things she struggled with. And physically, she couldn't walk at the end. And it's incredible how little they will do and how much they will overlook and how poorly they will treat other human beings. There was a lot I had to do to advocate for her. There were doctors I had to speak to about what they were medicating her with because they never bothered to see she had brain cancer. They just would prescribe her shit. and

[Supdaily]:

How is that information left out? Out of everything, how is the most important part of it left out?

[Chloe Sexton]:

It's not love down. And I got to a point where, you know, I was really trying to be very nice and very cooperative. And I lost all sense of that at the end. I really stopped going, hi, I'm so sorry to bother you. I did not do that anymore. For the last six months of my mother's life, there was a lot of, I don't need to speak to you, I need to speak to your administrator. And after speaking to the administrator, I had to tell them in the first place when my mom was in her home and I came to see her. couldn't hold a straw in her mouth. And I said, I need you to call an ambulance and that ambulance needs to be sent to Methodist North that is downtown. He said, you know, well, the closest hospital is here and there, but honestly, she's just really tired and it's probably her med. She couldn't hold a straw in her mouth because the swelling of her brain was so severe and she needed steroids immediately intravenously

[Supdaily]:

Mmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

that she could have died within two days. And I was probably aggressive. but I don't feel bad about it, I really don't. I can't

[Supdaily]:

You're advocating

[Chloe Sexton]:

say that I feel bad

[Supdaily]:

for

[Chloe Sexton]:

about

[Supdaily]:

your

[Chloe Sexton]:

it.

[Supdaily]:

loved one. Like if you're gonna be aggressive for anyone, why not your mother, you know?

[Chloe Sexton]:

So, yeah, I learned not to expect that anybody was going to do the right thing ever. And once I got them to actually call the ambulance, which I had to sit there and watch them and be like, I'm literally not leaving this fucking room until you do. I'm really sick of asking you to wear fucking gloves.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

As soon as I saw her get in the ambulance, I took myself to the hospital, and then I called the ambulance arrivals. They basically have a desk for ambulance arrivals and called them over and over again to have you as we didn't just joy yet. He was admitted to the joint. I would call back every 10 minutes, sitting on a park bench outside. And then finally, when they said they admitted her, they would go, okay, now why is she here? Because I knew that would happen.

[Supdaily]:

Yep.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I knew we would get to that point. And they're like, well, she can't really talk. Why is she here? What's the point? She's not in distress. And I'm like, she needs a CT scan and she needs an MRI. She also is probably going to need steroids. Her doctor is so-and-so. He's in the neurosurgical department. Please take her to neuro-oncology. They said to hold their hands.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Because it's not what it is in TV. It's not, you know, a hunky doctor, McDreamy, just waiting to solve a puzzle. They're gonna do what they're made to do and nothing more.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So that's what it turned into. It was a lot of ugly fighting, but when we got to hospice, I was incredibly, incredibly devastated and traumatized by that point. I've done... 11 years of watching her get sick and watching her get better and helping her with my sister and doing it again and doing it again. I still was surprised.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I still was incredibly shocked. That was just never gonna happen. But I didn't fight it. Hospice was the right decision, obviously there were no more.

[Supdaily]:

What was the, when did the conversation start about you raising your sister?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I can't say that we ever actually had a full-on conversation about that because Charlotte does have a father.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Charlotte has a father. not a father who has ever had her on his own, not a father who is not a bad father ever, I would never speak poorly of him, but his life is just not fit for having her all the time.

[Supdaily]:

Mm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And throughout taking care of my mom with me. So if there's anyone who's going to be there with her while teaching her, you know, what death is, teaching her what's happening to her mother, having to tell her that mom is not coming home yet. This is it. And giving her the kind of emotional support that she would need from quite literally the only other person on the planet who's gonna hurt as much as she did, it was an obvious choice that she would stay with me. And I think it was just something unspoken between me and my mom, dad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't realize until I found the recording this

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

past week or so in her phone. And I didn't realize she really had intended because I just did it. Quite honestly, I just did it. I never knew if she intended on me to have her or if she wanted Charlotte's father to have her or what she thought was going to happen because again, she was being scattered and she wasn't herself all the time and she got really sick really fast. But that was a really great confirmation to me that I was doing the right thing and that I was going to give her what she knew she wanted Charlotte to have. And that I am doing it.

[Supdaily]:

So can you talk a little bit about that? So that voice memo was something you knew about but then put off listening to, correct?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Her entire phone. I didn't know that there was gonna be any.

[Supdaily]:

So you just discovered this recently then.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Okay.

[Supdaily]:

That, I mean, I'm, to be honest with you, while I was researching you, listening to that ugly sobbing at my computer, I can't imagine how tough that was for you to hear. For those who haven't heard it, can you describe a little bit of what she asked of you or said to you in the memo that you did share?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, yes. Um, she had organized, there's a, there's a number of recordings. I haven't actually listened to them all. Um, but there's a number of recordings that I found in her voice memos. Um, and this one was titled Just For Me. And I definitely, I kind of lost it before I even opened it because I was waiting for something like that.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I, I had her phone. And I actually, it got lost a couple times and I just felt lost my mind. We moved houses the same week that we opened our bakery and it got left with the previous owner like on top of a cabinet.

[Supdaily]:

Oof.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I lost my mind. I had a panic attack

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and I was saving it. I was saving it for something that we did. And I was just like, you know, I kept putting it off and I kept going like, Oh, let me charge it. I charged it so many times and it died so many times because I just couldn't do it. But you know, there was no letter when she died. There was no like will, there was a giant mess to clean up

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and, um, a lot of responses to take care of, but there was no last letter. There were no last words and she couldn't talk when she died. Um, I thought I was really hoping all this time that there was going to be something for me. Um. But I was also too scared to open it because what if there wasn't? You know, what if there was actually nothing? I knew my mom had a lot of things, but some things she also could be was forgetful

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and not terribly thoughtful sometimes. And as much as I ever loved her and took care of her, there is still an underlying tone of trauma that happens between us

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and resolved feelings due to her behavior. So I knew that that was definitely not real either. There might be this long letter to a friend and nothing for me. But there was, and I opened it. And she essentially said to me that she was so sorry. She's so sorry to leave it in her lap. That she knew better than to have Charlotte.

[Supdaily]:

Wow.

[Chloe Sexton]:

But that's just how much she loved her, is that she knew how much it would cost her. And she still wanted her, she still wanted her so bad.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I mean, she's obsessed with Charlotte.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And there are so many photos. Mind you, there might be 10 total of me as a kid. So,

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

fight her over this. But like throughout the first whole year of her life, every month there was a different picture theme. She's got the Easter bunny picture where she's in a basket of eggs, you know? And girls are life. And she said, you know, I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry to have left it. your lab. But I'm still proud of you. And I just I want you to do everything. I want you to travel and she she laid heavy on that message, simply because I have had my nose down for so long. I've had you know, I've been working since I was 14. There's never been I didn't do the gap year life. I didn't. I've been working and trying to create something for so long, so deep in it. There was never a portion of my life where I focused on myself. Because even though I am following what is essential in my dream, it cost me everything. And she knows that and she watched every portion of that and she knew how much this was going to cost me, but how much I felt like I was building and that I was doing something worthwhile for once. But she really wanted to tell me that, you know, You have to actually live your life. I'm 28 years old and I have a lot to show for it. But that isn't really the most important thing. And I can tell you my mom's gonna do a lot more in her life and I will probably get done by the time I'm 40. Simply that was because she could.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Because she could because she wanted to because she didn't live tethered by anything. in particular Mexico because that may seem like a random thought split through a person with brain cancer's mind. Everything's a butterfly.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

But

[Supdaily]:

well, I wish you'd talk about Mexico so much.

[Chloe Sexton]:

because I told her, she went backpacking with me in Mexico when I was like two, and I always told her, I was like, I would never, I would never. As a mother and responsible middle-aged person, 21 years old, I would never.

[Supdaily]:

Hehehehe

[Chloe Sexton]:

I love to tell her how I would do things differently than her. And I have become a very rigid, responsible parent. But we stuck it. It's what she did, it's what she wanted to do, and she loved it. But no, we definitely had multiple conversations about it. And the last thing I am taking my wife back to is Mexico. Well, unfortunately, I've already booked a trip now. So

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, where Mexico?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I can't.

[Supdaily]:

Oh, it's a secret.

[Chloe Sexton]:

It has like a law in it. My husband, as a friend, who is literally a manager of a resort that

[Supdaily]:

GASP

[Chloe Sexton]:

is within 10 minutes distance of waterfalls, which she also works at. So that kind of just fell into place for me really quickly. But I think our final message was just take care of Charlotte. Do all the things I would do. And raise her the way that I would, which. I am trying to, I really am. Try raising an eight, nearly nine year old girl though. My God, they're mean. If there's

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

one thing I could tell her, I'd be like, listen, I'm trying girl, but this bitch has hands.

[Supdaily]:

She's mean.

[Chloe Sexton]:

She is mean,

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

she is mean. So it was a beautiful message and I, honestly, I talked to my therapist about it before I went to her phone at all.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And he was like, why have you been putting this off for so long? It seems like it's doing more damage and anxiety than just opening it. And I was just like, because what if there's nothing? What if there's literally nothing? What am I supposed to do? Um, if that's it. It felt like I hadn't really closed everything. There was still so much more I could discover and things she said, I'd never heard if I just never opened it. Um, and he was just like, that's not, you're never going to get any closer to losing the like panic attacks. that I have because of Ruth. And the trauma and finding some closure if you don't open it, just do it. So she died April 12th and I opened it April 12th. And um... Yeah, kind of distorting.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, I mean, you like I was looking at the dates and I was like, Oh my God, I'm interviewing her right around the anniversary of her mom's death. Like, look, I know that you have, I mean, I don't really know you. And I always try to make sure that I don't overstep, but I need to give you a bit more credit than you're giving yourself. Because from listening to you as a stranger, you had so many moments and a right. to be angry and you have your anger, sure, but pass that on to Charlotte, pass that because there's things it sounds like that you probably would have liked some of the things that Charlotte got provided for when you were younger. Does that feel accurate?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah.

[Supdaily]:

You have every right to be angry about that. And some people, and I always say this, and you've got two types of people, people who have experienced a lot of trauma and wanna make sure no one else goes through it. and people have experienced trauma, say this is how people deal with it, you're gonna have to deal with it now. And you chose a high road, and if it's weird coming from a stranger, I'm so proud of the road that you took because you're breaking cycles of trauma. You shoulder, have shouldered so much. I'm sitting here dumbfounded, and on top of this, you're getting married, you're starting a business, you're... baking while pregnant, like you are a superhuman. Like that was the one thing that I took away. I was like, I don't know where this conversation is gonna go, but I know I'm talking to a really special person. And I hope that you recognize that about yourself.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thank you. I think definitely a theme of what I'm working through in therapy is that I don't really have a sense of what's enough. When you come from nothing and everything's so hard, I don't really know when it's ever going to be enough. If I don't start learning that the goal in life is not happiness. The goal in life is not making yourself as happy as possible all the time. The goal in life is contentment.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And until you're content with yourself and until you're content with what you've achieved and you're kind enough to yourself to go like, it's enough,

[Supdaily]:

Yes.

[Chloe Sexton]:

this is done, it's enough, then you're never gonna actually be what you think is happening.

[Supdaily]:

Yes, you

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm working on it.

[Supdaily]:

I've I've done a lot of therapy. I did mostly EMDR therapy. Have you experimented with that?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I did about five years ago.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, it's really ouchy. That was an ouchy type of therapy for me at least. Drudging up all that stuff was really hard, but it was freedom by the end of it, I think. I don't know. But what I found was, is through that process of therapy and all these self-help books, it's like, at what point do I get to enjoy who I am? If I'm always looking to be this better person, when do I get to enjoy who I am now?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm

[Supdaily]:

At some

[Chloe Sexton]:

sorry.

[Supdaily]:

point you have to be like, I'm a pretty dope person. I'm gonna keep working on myself, but like, this is enough. You know, I had the same thing with like, I've been doing social media for 16 years. I've been since the birth of this industry and I thought I would hit these numbers and I would hit this income amount and I would hit, you know, all these goals and I hit every single one of them. And I was like, ha ha, that wasn't it at all.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah

[Supdaily]:

And that is a sobering experience. Do you identify with this?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I do, I think, you know, something that always surprises me. Because it surprises other people. I try not to take it personally based on my faith

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

that the internet thinks I'm 30 something and I'm like, excuse you, I'm a spring chicken.

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

Young, fresh, hot summer girl. Thank you.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, you

[Chloe Sexton]:

Rude.

[Supdaily]:

are. Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

No,

[Supdaily]:

I see that.

[Chloe Sexton]:

but people are always, you know, if I have these conversations, or I did a lot of interviews right around the time that we opened. Did a lot of interviews right around the time of the Taylor Carlson Show and the whole Four Seas Party story and everything like that. the conversation always ends up, you know, okay, and you're how old? 28. And I go, my god. And, you know, I thought I would because when I was starting, when I thought was going to be a very long broadcaster and looking for I was just like, you know, it's gonna be so impressive when I'm so much better than all these bitches. And I'm yay old, and I have everything I want. And now, yeah, on paper, you know, I've everything that I ever wanted as a kid who grew up. you know, below the poverty line. And all they ever wished for was, you know, to not have to worry about there being food or, you know, being able to shop somewhere other than Goodwill or things like that. And I can do so much more than that. And it's just, it's never gonna be enough unless you actually feel it's enough.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. I mean, I didn't have the same extensive experience that you did, but in the process of trying to grow what I have now, I was homeless twice. And that I didn't realize until I started going to therapy that like that lack and I'm not talking about homeless, like just like hanging out couldn't afford Starbys. I was on the street in LA. You don't realize how much that sticks with you and messes with your relationship with what is enough, messes with your relationship with money, messes with your relationships with other people, because all, I don't know if it was the same for you, but all I could think about was never going back to that sidewalk. That's all

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh

[Supdaily]:

I could

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah.

[Supdaily]:

think about. And it causes you

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh

[Supdaily]:

to

[Chloe Sexton]:

yeah.

[Supdaily]:

live in lack, and it causes you to have, you end up having less because you're so obsessed with having more. At least that was for me.

[Chloe Sexton]:

do. I don't, I am infamously in every relationship I've ever had. I can't shop. I can't do it. There's too much anxiety tied around like, no, you really shouldn't spend that. I can't buy clothes on Amazon. I can't. I'm trying to go ho out at a rental home in like two weeks. And I've been circling the drain around what I'm going to wear because I refuse to buy anything unless it's the cheapest thing possible. But that's still fair. I've worked too goddamn hard to continue acting this way. For the first time in my life, I spent$280 on things only for me at Target.

[Supdaily]:

What?

[Chloe Sexton]:

This was like two weeks ago, I know.

[Supdaily]:

Treat,

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I was just like,

[Supdaily]:

treat yourself.

[Chloe Sexton]:

you know what? I'm a therapist myself right now.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Like, they should have a rose gold amix. I can do that. But I literally will still go like... Oh, it's full price, it's full price. Put it in the cart, put it in the cart, put it in the

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

cart. And it takes so much inside of me to just do that. And just buy it, just be fine, it's fine.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Everything will be fine. And then I come home and the first thing I do is I justify all my purchases. Okay, but I really needed this because my husband was just on the other side of the room like, bro, I really, I don't care. I'm like, I know you don't care. You grew up where you grew up,

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

your parents were well-to-do. That man literally, I will refuse to buy Starbucks. I haven't bought Starbucks in... I just, I don't buy Starbucks. I might buy

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

it once a year. And this man is like, hey, I bought a $7,000 golf cart for the neighborhood ride, you know, just because. And it's like, good, how do you live with such freedom?

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

You're kidding me.

[Supdaily]:

But that had to have been been quite the the journey for you to coming from such drastically different backgrounds, but you made it work. Or you're making it work or I'm making

[Chloe Sexton]:

When

[Supdaily]:

assumptions.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I tell you, I will literally pull that man for the way that he, we have good compromise, we are incredibly different, which is great because he's a good balance to me, making sure that I'm never actually gonna live my life in the way that I treat myself.

[Supdaily]:

Mmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I will treat myself in that way where like, I won't spend money. And then I constantly look like shit because I won't spend money on better looking clothes. And then I feel like shit because I won't do that even though I can. And he's the person that is just like, have you heard of On Class? Yeah, they're like these incredibly expensive sneakers. I bought a pair today. And I'm like, how do you? And he's like, don't worry, I bought you a pair too. How do you do that? I

[Supdaily]:

But did you think

[Chloe Sexton]:

mean,

[Supdaily]:

I

[Chloe Sexton]:

he's

[Supdaily]:

made

[Chloe Sexton]:

like,

[Supdaily]:

it better?

[Chloe Sexton]:

it's

[Supdaily]:

So

[Chloe Sexton]:

such a demon.

[Supdaily]:

don't worry. It's like,

[Chloe Sexton]:

Like,

[Supdaily]:

well.

[Chloe Sexton]:

he's, well, he's that person.

[Supdaily]:

Uh oh, I lost you. They're gone. I can't. Ha. Did it disconnect? Stick with us guys, we're doing technical issues. Did it disconnect?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Am I on?

[Supdaily]:

You are

[Chloe Sexton]:

Can you

[Supdaily]:

on.

[Chloe Sexton]:

hear me?

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Well now I'm connected to the computer.

[Supdaily]:

Well, you know what? We're getting towards the end anyway, so we'll just go with it for now. Guys, this is how it works. If you ever want my guests to be able to have nice microphones, make sure you support me on Patreon, patreon.com slash Unfiltered Friends, and I can send microphones to people, but we ain't got it like that yet. This is what you're witnessing right now is called a passion project. It doesn't make me any money, and I'm barely getting by. but I quit everything that made me money for the sake of my own happiness, which as someone who also lived a poor life at some point in their life, it's not a good time for me.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm gonna go.

[Supdaily]:

But I haven't died yet. So we'll just go, that's

[Chloe Sexton]:

more could you want?

[Supdaily]:

the, the every day is a bonus day. I've had several near death experiences and the fact that I'm still here, hey, we're making it. We're doing it, we're doing it big. I think it's hilarious that I started this whole thing and I had like some notes and we spent spent the whole time talking about like cults and stuff like that or communes. Sorry, communes. But that's what I love. That's what I love about this is like, you never know which direction it's going to go. That's my style. I like just letting it unfold how it will. But I do want to talk a little bit about your your baked goods. So what was the moment like where it started to really take off for you and become a business?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, God, I would have to say that it, it was a bit of a year long thing that just kept building on itself. Um, my first occasion was when I was sharing my story, my baked goods and telling people what had happened to me.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, which I kind of did as soon as it happened. As soon as I got fired after telling them I was pregnant, I was like, guess what? I'm not dropping any names cause I'm that stupid.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, but yeah, this happened to me and you know, the outrage around that. Oh

[Supdaily]:

Oh

[Chloe Sexton]:

my

[Supdaily]:

yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

God.

[Supdaily]:

well it's disgusting.

[Chloe Sexton]:

It's disgusting, but people were really, really involved in, you know, well, how's this going to pan out? What are you going to do next? And I was like, I don't know, man. I bought a house three months ago.

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

Um, and I'm pregnant. And it's like, so I got fired at the end of November, which was Thanksgiving. I'm like, and I got to buy Christmas presents. This is so crazy fun. And, uh, so sharing all of that and just letting people know that like, I'm panicking, I'm quite literally panicking a hundred percent of the time. Um, got people really invested in just my story. And as a side note, they're like, oh, and she bakes. That's so crazy, which I was doing locally. So like the pre-orders and stuff and Thanksgiving baking that I was gonna do, I was like, guess what? I told you guys there was a cap, forget the cap. I will kill myself on my kitchen floor

[Supdaily]:

I need to make money.

[Chloe Sexton]:

to bake whatever you want. And I did, and it flew off locally. But the more people were watching on my TikTok, because I had maybe like 150,000 followers at that point, the more people were watching that on my TikTok, they were just like, man, I wish you could ship something. And that's where I started spiraling into, okay, don't miss this opportunity. How can I ship something? It has to be shelves, blah, blah, blah. It has to be sustainable. I have to be able to afford it. How am I gonna do this? So I started messing around with the big cookies, which is something that I actually, I used to just oversized making cookies all the time. The second that I was messing around with that for local sales and going live while I did it, and people were showing interest in like, oh man, you can totally ship these. I was like, oh my God. I could totally ship these, that's crazy. From that point on, getting it from my kitchen to all 50 states in Canada was about six weeks.

[Supdaily]:

Mmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

In six weeks, I did what I needed to do to supply packaging, supply nutrition labels, follow all cottage food laws, because it was coming out of my house, get permits, and launch. I launched New Year's Eve of 2020. So I put maybe like two dozen cookies up on my website and I told my followers about it and they were gone. And I was like, that's so crazy. Next time I'm baking, I'm gonna put the amount up on my website and go live and you guys tell me if you want me to talk to you about the cookies. And I did and they were gone. So I kept doubling up on the amount that I was offering. And I mean like doubling up to the point I was like, if all of these sell out, I don't have them. And I also didn't, I stopped putting a cap. So the first occasion where it really went haywire. was in February of 2021. So I was probably like seven months pregnant at this point. And I went live and simultaneously a video of mine was going viral.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I messed up by not putting a cap on my website. And so I'm baking and I'm going live and I'm talking and the viewership is growing on my live. It's in the thousands. I'm like, this is so crazy and fun guys. And I can see my phone. I'm getting a phone call over and over again from my husband. And I was like, oh my God. Leave me alone.

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

I always wanna talk. I wanna know you. And so he starts hitting me up over the Alexa in our house and he's like, no, you need to pick up your phone right now. You have to get off of live. And I was like, what just happened? So I was like, sorry guys, you must be in emergency. I get off the live and he calls me and he's just like, you just sold $15,000 worth of cookies that we don't have. I was like, what? I

[Supdaily]:

Whoa.

[Chloe Sexton]:

was fucked, to put it lightly. I was.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So that's about that that equals out to be like 900 orders and Mind you my website still said like three to five shipping this and I was like

[Supdaily]:

Well, that's a lot.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I was also running all my own email marketing and everything because I had you know a background in it so I could but I I immediately put out an email. I was just like kind of fucked up Hope you guys can appreciate that. I did not anticipate this Everyone was so understanding.

[Supdaily]:

Oh, it's so good.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I mean got flooded with people going like really don't care if they show up a year from now, we're fine. It took me two months. I closed down the ability to order, it took me two months, and I refunded two orders, and all of that mess, two orders, and I got 900 orders out. It was thousands upon thousands of cookies, I can't tell you how many, but I knew that it was one minute, I was like, man, I hope I can pull my fucking weight in this house when we've always been a two income household, and... what the fuck are we gonna do to having$14,000? And that

[Supdaily]:

Wow.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I would say is the moment that made me. But it became all the more important not to lose traction. So I'm getting wildly more and more pregnant. I am working like 12 to 14 hour days on my feet. Everything is swollen. Everything is swollen.

[Supdaily]:

I can imagine.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And I'm just, I'm... I moved into a commercial kitchen at that point, so I was renting commercial kitchen space so I was able to do more things than I was before. Still was only me, and my husband had a full-time job that was very demanding. And it was definitely a really miserable way to ride out the worst portion of your pregnancy,

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

which is just like walking death those last couple of months. So to be pulling those hours and doing really, really physical hard labor and really, really late hours, incredible. Um, don't know how I did it, would never do it again. Um, one and done.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

This job was close, but, um, I took off the last two weeks before I gave birth. I gave birth to Theodore in our house actually. And, uh, two weeks later I was back on my feet and that first live is when I came back is probably the one people remember the most. out of anything that I've shared relating to the cookies because I'd also just done a custom order for Jessica Simpson.

[Supdaily]:

Mmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So that was a really big moment for me too. All of these things were happening at once.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Multiple viral moments that were building up to me being noticeable for cookies and something I really never anticipated for myself. You know, I had thought of myself as like an intelligent, educated woman who became the cookie lady real quick.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

That'll hurt your ego.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I learned to grow into it. And I'm working on it. I'm working on loving that people call me that. But two weeks after having Theodore, I just started wearing him and working again. And I did my first restock, and I was incredibly afraid that it was just going to totally flop, because where's the interest? They watched me struggle. People love to watch people struggle. They don't necessarily love to watch you succeed.

[Supdaily]:

Nope.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I was very scared that I was no longer struggling, but I was, hello. I was, I just gave birth and I was back on my feet. And so I went live and I was going like, hey, you know, here I am again. And the viewership was building again. And I was like, okay. So I'm not totally uninteresting. She says, baby, I literally just pooped him out in this room two weeks ago.

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

Well, you know, and I did, I was in my office. So we, we kind of built viewership, but I still was afraid. I was like, okay, in like 10 minutes, I'm gonna. drop all the cookies, they sold out in eight minutes. And I'm talking like a thousand cookies

[Supdaily]:

That's crazy.

[Chloe Sexton]:

sold out in eight minutes. And I'm just like sobbing on live and thanking people and telling people like, oh my God, I can't believe you actually did that. And they kept showing up and it kept going from there. Maybe eight months later is when I started my book deal and...

[Supdaily]:

You have so much happening.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yes, I wrote a book and my book, I actually got a book deal with one of the big five and like I have a book that is on that will be in Barnes and Noble and Target and Books a Million and like

[Supdaily]:

We love

[Chloe Sexton]:

That's

[Supdaily]:

that.

[Chloe Sexton]:

so weird for me. That's so weird for me but um, I did have a little bit of a little bit of a jump scare at first because uh, I was going to publish underneath My married name Chloe Sexton,

[Supdaily]:

Uh huh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

but there's a very spicy nopalist Not the good kind

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I'm not talking like Bridgerton Julia Quinn the good stuff. I'm talking like my stepbrother

[Supdaily]:

Look, I get it.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Hahaha!

[Supdaily]:

So actually the person who you kind of remind me of a little bit with the pregnancy story, she started her own company. She ended up selling it to DreamWorks for like$15 million. But when she sold it, she brought in all these new people to keep the organization going, got pregnant, and when she came back, she was essentially not a part of her own organization. So she got into the romance novel world and had me read one of those stories. The foreplay only exists in real life because it did not exist in the books that I was reading. I was mortified. I was like, whoa, they just.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So funny because I'm listening to Bridgerton and all of like the off branches of the people who write with her Consistently every single day

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

when I'm in this keep in I have no shame

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

But I did not want to be mixed up with this particular brand

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

of

[Supdaily]:

yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

space

[Supdaily]:

yeah, that makes sense.

[Chloe Sexton]:

but we just put my My maiden name back in there

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and now after a meeting with the people at Goodreads. Hopefully we've separated authors

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

We're falling under the same like we were the same person and I'm like, I swear to God Please don't do this to me.

[Supdaily]:

I love that you call your, I love that you have like slutty things, slutty brownies. That's my favorite. I want lemon everything. I don't know why chocolate. So I grew up baking with my dad. That was like a thing that him and I, my dad was a baker his whole life. Like so, so good. He was a donut maker when he was in college and then she just kind of went on from there. We make these cookies every year, chocolate chip, hazelnut, toffee cookies. And it is. And we, and it was kind of cool is like each year we've done it. We've done it since like 2007 together. We used to bake cakes when I was in boy scouts, but you, you change something each time to like improve every

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah.

[Supdaily]:

single time. That process is actually like kind of fun. I'm sad that your death by peanut butter is sold out right now.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Listen, whatever cookies you think we're sold out of or ones that I haven't even put on the website yet, just get us a list of that and we'll send it to you.

[Supdaily]:

Okay, like I'm dying, right? I got a sweet tooth, like nobody's business. You're also making me, I have a

[Chloe Sexton]:

I do not.

[Supdaily]:

KitchenAid power mixer, whatever they're called, stand mixer. I'm gonna start busting that out, because it's just like something about the process of it. Also, it's just.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Well, luckily for you, I have 62 recipes coming out soon.

[Supdaily]:

Whoa! So there's going to be a lot more on here.

[Chloe Sexton]:

It took me over a year to write that book.

[Supdaily]:

Man, again, I'm just like, I'm so massively impressed by you. You are just such an impressive human. And I know that you're probably not the type to give yourself enough credit. So I'm just gonna continually do it while you feel uncomfortable about it. Cause I'm the same way when people compliment me, I'm like, but I'll compliment

[Chloe Sexton]:

I like

[Supdaily]:

other

[Chloe Sexton]:

it.

[Supdaily]:

people. No problem.

[Chloe Sexton]:

It's a struggle especially now too because I don't really hang out in the front of our bakery a lot. I'm more like right here and I can see them on the camera. But a lot of people will show up throughout the week and either ask if I'm here, which the rule is everyone's supposed to say she's not here. Even though you can like clearly see me walking through the background.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Nope, not here.

[Supdaily]:

Not here.

[Chloe Sexton]:

But. The kindest, most amazing people will want to have these very candid conversations with you, share their own experiences with cancer, with loss, or just say altogether that they're proud of me. And that's very difficult for me.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Very difficult for me. I just kind of want to go, goodbye.

[Supdaily]:

So remember, remember I was telling you that I was with my grandma for the last like few weeks of her life.

[Chloe Sexton]:

and

[Supdaily]:

Um, I actually have the last lesson she taught me tattooed on my chest, which was listen, um, cause I w she couldn't talk. Uh, but at the end, I told her that the greatest lesson she taught me was a lot of times when people are looking for advice, they just want someone to listen. And then she was gone maybe within five minutes of that, which was a pretty, pretty wild experience. But one of the other lessons that she taught me is when someone gives you a compliment. or says something nice about you, just say thank you. Because it's about how they feel about you, not how you feel about you.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Exactly.

[Supdaily]:

The self journey is extensive and I'm still, I don't know if I'll ever, I just recently got into a relationship and she says nice things to me and I'm just immensely confused every single time. And I was like, are you, are you looking at me? Like what?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Yeah, I think we work so much better together simply because we're so mean to each other.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah.

[Chloe Sexton]:

He's just brazzin' me constantly.

[Supdaily]:

Well, I feel like that's like your love language. I've seen your fist a handful of times and I've heard about a lot of violent thoughts. So I think maybe just like leaning into that for your own safety is probably a good idea.

[Chloe Sexton]:

No, no. No, I think his favorite pet name for me, what would you say this, skank? Skank, yeah.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, my my girlfriend is a vegetarian and I call her my pellet poopy baby. Because because she poops pellets like a rabbit, I'm assuming I don't I don't know vegetarians.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Tell less people that, she will appreciate it.

[Supdaily]:

Oh, she's gonna listen to this and be like, I look, there's ones that are way worse than that. So we'll just, I'm just

[Chloe Sexton]:

Wolf.

[Supdaily]:

gonna stop digging while I'm behind.

[Chloe Sexton]:

help her.

[Supdaily]:

So one of the I think one of the overarching things about this is your perseverance. your ability to keep moving forward in the face of things that a lot of people will never face in their life. If somebody was just struggling, like one struggle after another, it feels like you're getting dog piled on. What did you do in your mind in order to keep moving forward in the face of all of that struggle?

[Chloe Sexton]:

What keeps me going?

[Supdaily]:

What happened in your mindset to keep you moving forward when you could have absolutely just laid down and had a pity party?

[Chloe Sexton]:

I think a lot of it has always been for me contingent upon who needs me.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I don't think I've ever made a lot of choices about keeping going because I saw a really bright future for myself or that I had things that I really, really wanted. If I'm honest with myself, I think a lot of it was survival based.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

A lot of the way I was raised and the way that my mindset always was, was survival. But there really has never been a moment in my life where somebody didn't need me. Somebody didn't need me to keep it together. There's never been a season of my life where I just went wild. irresponsible because somebody always needed me.

[Supdaily]:

Hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

My mom needed me or my sister needed me and if my sister didn't need me then now my son needs me and my employees need me. I don't think I've ever actually had and that makes it sound like a prison like oh my god you poor thing but I think I like being needed. I think I like being needed and I think I like being the responsible person who provides you know love and a happy life. for my kids, I think what I've found that I enjoy most about myself and about owning this business and making it what it is, is that I've built this family within my team, because I don't have a family. I don't have anybody anymore. I don't have siblings other than my sister. I don't have any parents. That's it. It's just me now. But what I'm capable of building by the safety that people find when they realize that if they need me, I will be there. I think that's something that became a part of my personality that... Yeah, it sounds like I had it really hard and really bad, but I think I finally like who I am. And I think I like that I'm needed and that I'm dependable and that... My kids are never gonna have to worry.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

My kids are never gonna have to worry. They're never gonna feel unsafe. They're never going to see me choose anything other than them. And... I think that's all that really matters to me at this point.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

I don't think I care as much about liking myself or really even where I go in life as much as I like protecting my sister.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, I mean, you didn't have that. So you provide it for other people. And that's, again, that is a conscious choice that you made and a testament to the content of who you are as a person. So, you all right? Good.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Sometimes you don't realize things you know about yourself or that you appreciate about yourself until you say them out loud.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm. And that's one of my favorite parts about doing this is I watch people fall in love with themselves Because I think too often and I do this too. You're just like constantly in motion You don't take time to like sit back and be like, holy Balls, what did I create here? What have I done? What have I overcome and you just keep going and it's just like Yeah, the second I started doing all this research about you and like like a versing myself on your experience. I was just like Oh, I'm so excited for this. This is about to be the best. And it was.

[Chloe Sexton]:

traumatizing

[Supdaily]:

Yeah. No, look, when you've experienced a lot of trauma, you kind of like, I don't know, you get used to hearing these stories. They don't traumatize you any further, because you're kind of like at capacity. So you just listen to someone else and identify with them instead of take on their trauma. You know?

[Chloe Sexton]:

It is nice to hear a different side of what I provide for Charlotte because in her eyes, I'm the worst person on the planet right now,

[Supdaily]:

Oh yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

okay?

[Supdaily]:

how old is she now?

[Chloe Sexton]:

We don't tell you how soon hormones kick in. She's traumatizing me,

[Supdaily]:

How old is she?

[Chloe Sexton]:

okay? She's eight!

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, I mean, like, I would love to tell you it's gonna get easier, but I don't think it's going to.

[Chloe Sexton]:

She's terrifying, honestly. I'm worried about my little soft boys. My boys are so, cause I have my bonus kid too, Mason.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

So when I, when Mason, I just forgot my husband's name. When Tyler and I

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

got together, he already had a son. He just,

[Supdaily]:

Hehehe

[Chloe Sexton]:

like, what is that guy's name again? A stinky weirdo that

[Supdaily]:

Hahaha

[Chloe Sexton]:

I tagged myself to. He already had a son and Mason and Charlotte are a month apart. So

[Supdaily]:

Oh, that's-

[Chloe Sexton]:

people are always like, yeah, you've got this skinny, gangly little snaggletoothed. That

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

is my sister.

[Supdaily]:

Mm-hmm.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And then you have this delicate, sweet, wonderful child who's very full-formed and who will ask you at the end of your day, how was your day? If you

[Supdaily]:

Thank

[Chloe Sexton]:

had

[Supdaily]:

you.

[Chloe Sexton]:

a time machine, if you had a time machine, what would you go back and change about your day? And I'm like, stop, stop.

[Supdaily]:

Oh.

[Chloe Sexton]:

And Charlotte, meanwhile, is like, I think that we should tell everyone my name is Charles because if they look at me and I tell them my name is Charles, they have to decide whether or not they want to call me a girl or a guy and that would be offensive either way. and I'm gonna act-defend it either way. Really?

[Supdaily]:

Please,

[Chloe Sexton]:

What?

[Supdaily]:

please protect. Okay, what you're describing, the soft boy in your life, that was me, protect him

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

with

[Chloe Sexton]:

He's

[Supdaily]:

everything

[Chloe Sexton]:

lovely.

[Supdaily]:

in your heart because I am a testament to how often people will try to destroy that.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Mm-hmm.

[Supdaily]:

I never gave up on it, but it was a rough go.

[Chloe Sexton]:

He is emotionally excelling as a person and Charlotte taught kids at her brand new school to say, I'm a dick. Like a bunch of them. A bunch of them! She's digging in the woods for animal skulls and showing them to me. Diseases, please stop. No, I'm not worried about her. She's fine, she's just an asshole.

[Supdaily]:

You should have the world by the balls.

[Chloe Sexton]:

She really will.

[Supdaily]:

So, OK, if people are inspired by you and want to reach out to you, where's the best place for them to do that?

[Chloe Sexton]:

Instagram,

[Supdaily]:

Instagram,

[Chloe Sexton]:

honestly.

[Supdaily]:

which is Chloe Bluff Cakes.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Just bluff cakes.

[Supdaily]:

Bluff, just bluff cakes. Yeah, searching for you was was a journey initially.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Hahaha

[Supdaily]:

I did find your personal Instagram, but I didn't get weird, so.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Oh God, I never post on that anymore. It's all about business now.

[Supdaily]:

Yeah, well, there's only so many hours in the day, you know.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thank you.

[Supdaily]:

Well, thank you for being on I appreciate this went a lot longer than I thought it would. But it went a lot of places I didn't know existed. So thank you for being so

[Chloe Sexton]:

I apologize for the technical difficulties, but I thank you for your patience. And I wholeheartedly agree that if your audience wants things like this not to happen anymore, they should support

[Supdaily]:

Yeah,

[Chloe Sexton]:

you.

[Supdaily]:

thank you for that support. Yes, and they do. And I'm definitely gonna put in an order here. I'm trying to like, I'm trying to not

[Chloe Sexton]:

You're gonna make me put it in order because my beats are taped together, by the way. I gotta get with it.

[Supdaily]:

I am putting in an order so you can buy new beats that aren't taped together. But yeah, thank you for being on Unfiltered Friends. I appreciate you.

[Chloe Sexton]:

Thank you for having me.

[Supdaily]:

Stay with me.